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6/6/2012 1:06:00 PM
Letter: Government cannot answer all needs
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Editor:

Regarding Andrew Summers' letter of May 30, I'd like to provide him with some real facts from personal experience as a Christian with knowledge of how a Bible-based church functions.

The Book of Acts demonstrates how the early Christians cared for each other and were blessed with the miracle working power of God in their lives as a result of their faith in Him, not the government. Cradle to grave promises from Washington and other tax extortion entities are relatively recent schemes that have been accepted by many people who have come to rely on God only when everything else fails, if at all.

The church I belong to is a Christian community where Jesus Christ is the center figure. Through prayer, He still saves from sin, delivers people from addictions and other bondages, and heals broken hearts and bodies. I've experienced instant healing from cancer through the prayers of faith from my brethren there, and I've seen others receive the same benefits of belonging to such a fellowship.

Comparing Christian churches to our Federal government is like comparing food to fertilizer, or cereal to the box it comes in.

The Feds programs are teetering on trillion dollar deficit scaffolds maintained by deception and bureacrats with bloated salaries who exist only because some people believe they have all the answers.

When the next collapse comes, be sure the Creator and Master of the universe still will be holding out His gracious and powerful arms to welcome and help whoever calls on Him.

Eleanor R. Lazok

Prescott Valley

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Reader Comments

Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Article comment by: Apples and oranges

Eleanor's letter makes it sound as if government and religion are two different things. It is my most fervent hope that this is and will always remain the case. Eleanor, it's nice that you found something that fulfills you but can you tell your fellow Christians to stop meddling in government? You're ruining it for the rest of us.

Posted: Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Article comment by: Citizen Atheist

Christians don't follow the Bible anyways, so your argument, Elanor, is misplaced and false. Christians cherry-pick the Bible for the good parts, ignore the bad parts, and then claim some sort of divine knowledge of good/evil and morality. However, since you choose what parts of the Bible to follow (as does your church, apparently), you must have a moral standard that does not come from that which you edit.

Once you realize that, a whole new world will open up to you.


Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012
Article comment by: Discussion Not Emotion

Mr. Summers, let me see if I follow what you just posted here.

If our body's natural defenses defeats a virus or sickness, it's a blessing from the biblical god.

If our doctors cure a disease, through research, scientific discovery, scholarship, application of acquired knowledge, or through any other avenue, it's a blessing from the biblical god.

If the sickness goes away and it is unexplained, it's a blessing from the bibilical god.

So...no matter how it occurs, the biblical god did it?

With all due respect, why does your god get the credit? Why not Odin, or Lugos, or Allah, or Zeus, or Brahma? Why aren't natural explanations, with no god involved whatsoever, possible? Why aren't we giving credit where credit is due, to the ingenuity and brilliance of the human race? Whether there is a god or not, doctors and medical science are curing diseases, and that should be recognized, not marginalized by giving all the glory to a god that may or may not be there.

Don't misunderstand, I respected your original letter and your concern for the poor. You seem like a man of integrity and kindness. I just see all the hard work of doctors, scientists, and medical researchers over the last two hundred years achieving such phenomenal results in human health...and the idea of minimizing all that achievement as nothing more than a part of a god's grand plan....well, that diminishes the human race immeasurably.

I'll accept prayer-healing as real when prayer cures a Down's Syndrome child, heals an amputee, or removes all traces of scars from a third-degree burn victim. Until then, it is nothing more than wishful-thinking and proven hoaxes, unless someone somewhere can demonstrate otherwise.


Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012
Article comment by: Andrew Summers

Dear Eleanor:

I too am a born-again Christian. I have been since 1978. God has performed miracles in my life, including healing, but instant healings through prayer is not the only method that God uses to heal people. Another way is through the mechanisms he gave the human body to fend off diseases. A third way is this: that God sometimes heals people through medical science as well. Was it not a gift from God when we discovered a vaccine for polio or small pox? I thank God for the discovery of antibiotics and the countless lives it has saved.

Do you think such miracle discoveries as these came from Satan?

Perhaps your church should simply pray that God will provide you with that extra $53K per month--that would solve the problem.

Andrew Summers


Posted: Saturday, June 9, 2012
Article comment by: martha mekeel

Well I too love Jesus, but I do not trust institutions of religion. I am also a patriot of the land of the free, but do not trust my Government. I truly believe alot of our problem is due to the greate media divide. It has caused our two major parties to act like Quarrelsome children with egos bigger than Rick James! Freedom is in the grey area, but our leaders refuse to agree to dissagree. We only opperate in black and white, where is the grey that has always worked for us? They should behave as though opposites attract, and compliment eachother, but I am a dreamer. The point is......it's time to progress in our thoughts as believers, God opperates through people, if they allow it, and the contradictive bible should not be used to control people by means of fear.

Posted: Thursday, June 7, 2012
Article comment by: Really .

Eleanor-
Your opinions are certainly noted. I have to respectfully disagree on just about everything you posit.
Understand, I can never possess the world view you do, because I do not think the church holds many answers. My ever-questioning mind prevents me from it. Been there, done that.
If I ever became stricken with a disease like cancer, I'd be doing my best to understand medicine, anatomy and biology to to try and combat the illness as long as possible rather than praying for it to simply 'go away'. That may work for some, but seems rather pointless to me. It's like the sum benefit of doing absolutely nothing.
The same goes for 'healings' and other snake oil remedies. I know cancer doesn't get 'healed instantly,' because I know the human body just doesn't work that way. What you view as 'instant healing' is likely because cancer sometimes goes into remission. It's not gone.
That aside, I don't understand how this letter addresses any of the issues in Mr. Summers' letter.


Posted: Thursday, June 7, 2012
Article comment by: Discussion Not Emotion

This is really healthy. Extreme religious beliefs combined with paranoia.

If prayer truly cured this person's cancer, than I assume the doctors involved in her care contacted scientific institutions to finally report and confirm the existence of a true miracle?

Or did the cancer simply go into remission, as it sometimes does?

Overall, her letter really doesn't respond to Mr. Summers' original letter at all. It's just preaching from a pulpit.




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